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Laxxal22 wrote:Sam Dwinell is apparently doing a year at Deerfield before Duke. He was all league 3 times at Middlesex, and comfortably a top five middle in the ISL last season. He’s quite dynamic and athletic (see highlights below). You are correct that NEPSAC rules state you must be 19 or younger on Sept 1 to be eligible to play interscholastic sports in the upcoming academic year. NEPSAC covers basically every prep school in New England and certainly all of West 1 regardless of Founders status. However, this does not imply that the age limit is 19. You must be 19 or younger Sept 1st. This means you can turn 20 Sept 2 and be eligible to play all 3 seasons. There are certainly not a bunch of 20 year olds running around West 1 but, assuming they were born after Sept 1, they would be eligible.

I took an unofficial tally of the talent on the consensus preseason Top 4 in West 1. Alphabetically :Avon, Brunswick, Deerfield, Salisbury.

Between the seniors, juniors, and PGs I counted 54 D1 commits, 17 of whom are ranked in Recruiting Rundown’s Top 100 of the classes of 2018, 2019, and 2017 for the PGs. There’s another 12 that are either seniors going top D3 or juniors that look like they’ll go that level or mid tier D1. That’s an average of 16.5 high level upperclassmen per team, and I probably missed a few guys. I also didn’t account for any prodigious frosh/sophs or great athletes who play lacrosse as a second sport.

Only a handful of states (in their entirety) have as much talent as what’s loaded onto these four teams. Is this an especially strong year/s at the top, or simply a matter of Recruiting Rundown, Youtube, Twitter, and other sources making it easy to see what’s always been the case?

Laxxal22 wrote:I took an unofficial tally of the talent on the consensus preseason Top 4 in West 1. Alphabetically :Avon, Brunswick, Deerfield, Salisbury.

Between the seniors, juniors, and PGs I counted 54 D1 commits, 17 of whom are ranked in Recruiting Rundown’s Top 100 of the classes of 2018, 2019, and 2017 for the PGs. There’s another 12 that are either seniors going top D3 or juniors that look like they’ll go that level or mid tier D1. That’s an average of 16.5 high level upperclassmen per team, and I probably missed a few guys. I also didn’t account for any prodigious frosh/sophs or great athletes who play lacrosse as a second sport.

Only a handful of states (in their entirety) have as much talent as what’s loaded onto these four teams. Is this an especially strong year/s at the top, or simply a matter of Recruiting Rundown, Youtube, Twitter, and other sources making it easy to see what’s always been the case?

About the norm. The boarding schools draw from all over the US and Canada. Wick has Westchester and Fairfield locked down like you can’t believe, in the club scene and in the communities. All these schools recruit specifically for lax. It’s a big player pool for both boarding and Wick.

In Bronxville, Larchmont, Harrison, Rye, Greenwich, Bedford, upscale parts of Stamford, Darien, New Canaan, Rowayton, Westport, and Fairfield the best athletes are lax players who started playing before 7. Not only that, but in addition to poaching from public schools, these schools all have feeders. Jits is easy to find. If you’re lacking somewhere you can always get it out the mud and find a new soulja from the skreets. Plug and play homieDo top D1 recruits ever choose to go D3? You look at these all star games and 5 Star recruit lists and 100% are alway committed to D1 schools? I’m assuming that there must be cases of a top 10 recruit going D3.

Does anyone think it’s wrong to see stud D1 lacrosse players with very average (at best) academic standings committed to elite schools like Duke, Virginia, Cornell, etc.? I know it’s a lot worse in other sports but it just never sits right with me to see kids who would never get into these institutions if not for their athletic ability.

Great example but, curious, was Fay highly recruited coming out of HS? Interesting, Spencer is the best in class attackman now, despite being ranked behind other ‘high profile’ attackmen in his class.

Sour Shoes wrote:

Do top D1 recruits ever choose to go D3? You look at these all star games and 5 Star recruit lists and 100% are alway committed to D1 schools? I’m assuming that there must be cases of a top 10 recruit going D3.

Does anyone think it’s wrong to see stud D1 lacrosse players with very average (at best) academic standings committed to elite schools like Duke, Virginia, Cornell, etc.? I know it’s a lot worse in other sports but it just never sits right with me to see kids who would never get into these institutions if not for their athletic ability.

I always find it interesting that the bulk of the kids rated in the top of recruiting magazines and websites all have chosen larger D1 schools. The reality is, there’s a ton of politics out there. Lots of laziness and self fulfilling prophesies. From the d1 coaches to the people (many times non players and outsiders themselves) rating the kids. It’s easy to say a kid is “elite” talent when a top 20 D1 program recruits them. But how many of those top D1 recruits pan out? How many kids are missed in the recruiting issues blow up in the D3 scene?

The answer is, A LOT.

It doesn’t get as many clicks to say that the kid heading to Tufts, Gettysburg or Vassar is better than the kid going to Lafayette, Binghamton, Siena. But that’s often true. The top 30 D3 schools regularly out recruit the bottom third of D1.

I’d also warn to not mistake size or division for quality of academics. There are some exceptionally good (and bad) academic institutions in both D1 and D3. As the UNC fiasco has finally revealed, there are also majors and special classes for lower end student athletes.

I have a very good friend that did well in hs but got into Cornell to play lacrosse. You would not consider him Ivy material outside of lacrosse. Good student, but not great. But I don’t ever begrudge kids like him because I see sports similar to any other extra curricular that kids get admitted to schools for all the time being an eagle scout, debate, choir, instrument student government, newspaper, etc. etc. IMO the goal of many colleges is to have a diverse student body. And good for the kids that can get into a school they might not otherwise by playing lacrosse. I say, use it if you can!

“I never knew no Godfather. I got my own family, Senator.”

Colin Minicus is another example. I can’t imagine there is a D1 roster that wouldn’t happily find room for a 2x AA from Darien. NESCAC always has some guys with big time game but opt for the small college experience.
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